Hi
I read something about Bogus stamps here at The Forum by Pascal but my red eyes prevent me to find it where it was.
Any way,
Simple solutions for Bogus, Fakes etc.
1.) Permission should be required for to be qualified to list items at "Prefilately"
(Today you can very well get the impression that you can get something really old and expensive for a penny - when itīs not even a prefilaty item.)
2.) More categories = more easy for a.) to remove or b.) to put items at right category.
2.) Information
4.) More specialized "Administrators" responsible for each group.
5.) Encourage active participating by the memebers to report items.
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What are the categories of stamps causing trouble for especially
new collectors and non well-experieced collectors?
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The first group below perhaps not. But information should be provided.
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FORGED STAMPS - Classic stamps
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Forged classic stamps exists from almost every country in the world,
mint and used.
Although they are collected, classic forged stamps should normally not
meet any problem for possesion in most jurisdictions. However, for selling
a forged classic stamp it must be decribed as such or you are in legal trouble,even for trying to sell sell it - even if not sold.
Stamps from, for example USA, are all still valid as postage.
If you use a forged classic stamp for postage you are in the counterfeiting business - as a Dealer with a big D.
Itīs like to have an old counterfited bank-note still valid as legal tender at home. Try pay with it or to deposit into your bank account and youīre in legal trouble.
Simple solutions:
a.) Inform that information can be found in most stampcatalogues.
b.) Inform about the legal situation of selling forgered stamps without a correct description.
c.) Inform what can happen if you use some of them for postage
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COUNTERFeITED STAMPS - Modern stamps
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Counterfited stamps exists from almost every country in the world.
Mosty from developed countries like UK and even from Sweden.
Even China has today a problem too as itīs not about philately;
Itīs about to make a profit of selling them to customers in need of stamps for resale or postage.
Although they are collected, counterfited stamps are illegal to posses and sell. If try to sell a counterfited stamp and describe it as such, youīve advertised your final countdown. Use them on a letter and it will be easy to trace you for a judical trial.
Simple solutions:
a.) Inform that information can be found in specialized stampcatalogues.
b.) Inform about the legal situation of possesing, selling or
using counterfited stamps as postage.
//c.) Inform that in many countries itīs also illegal to use stamps for postage which has been washed off from envelopes beeing distrubed by the post. To collect them and sell them as uncancelled with missing gum is not not illegal as long as you donīt cooperate with guys using them as postage.
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ILLEGAL STAMPS - Modern issues
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Illegal stamps are stamps which pretends to be valid for postage but is
not issued by a postal adminstration, although the bear a name of an existing country or territory.
Solution:
a.) Mark each country in the main directory with a star * in red.
b.) Make a note at the header of each country about illegal issues exists.
c.) Inform about the legal situation of selling forgered stamps without a correct description.
d.) Inform what can happen if you use them for postage
e.) Make a list of all information available for the illegal issus and update regulary (Collect the info from UPU or at least put a link for further info)
Example:
MYANMAR*
Header
2006
Illegal
etc etc
All official info from UPU:
Link (http)
Try to use an illegal issued stamp as postage for a letter in Myanmar
and you will miss the plane back home for sure.
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LOCAL CARRIAGE LABELS
Countries/territories
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Here you put only locals which have/had a proven mail distribution of mail using their "local stamps" as postage.
Exampel
Locals>Lundy
Locals>…..
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LOCAL CARRIAGE LABELS
by name of private mail company
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Here you list the stamps of a private mail companies stamps which use
stamps as postage.
Exampel
PRIVATE MAIL COMPANIES>……….
etc
Thereīs alot of them in Germany and The Netherlands but it
had never struck my mind to rememeber any of them but I understand Delcampe is a collecting site and itīs not only about Philately.
Most famous in modern time I think is the British mail stricke stamps and the Tunnel stamps.
Did I miss something?
Yes I did !
All those those labels called stamps.
Labels which looks like stamps and has a fooling incription with a non existing country or territory (or existing too) but where thereīs ...
blabla ok these can be dived in two categories.... more later I need a beer and coffe ok we call them LABELS...
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LABELS
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Isö among many others
These are to be moved away from the philatec section to the LABEL
section among other labels BUT it should be great with a link from
the Philately section for non -experienced philatelist which these labels
are trying to rip them off. OK keep them in the philateic section
and put the right label on the category = LABELS
LABELS= blue?
non-postage stamps= red
Anyway, first the categories and then all those countries and non-countries in respective category I think would help a lot for what the question was about.
El Gringo
P.S.
Hereīs a list of "countries" you can sort as you wish. Some are locals
with a mail delivery. Guess who? and some are really issuing postage stamps valid for international mail. SO thereīs no need to be a member of UPU get the mail to work. Taiwan do it as well as the Turkish Cypriotic Posts bla bla bla
Who will build a reference list as I try to keep away from them
although itīs good to know what is and what is not especially for the
less experienced Delcamper, right?
1. ABACO FREE NATION
2. ABEMAMA KINGDOM
3. ABENDLAND PROJEKT
4. ABKHAZ REPUBLIK
5. ABKHAZIA REPUBLIC
6. ABOMEY KINGDOM
7. ACACIA KINGDOM
8. ACHEH
9. ACRE (Independent State of or Republic of)
10. ADALUNCATIFF KINGDOM
11. AERICAN EMPIRE
12. AELDARIA EMPIRE
13. A.F.C.P.S.
14. AFRO-AMERICA KINGDOM
15. AFRIKANER RESISTANCE MOVEMENT
16. AGARTHA
17. AGARTHA (Imperial Residence of)
18. AGAV STATE
19. AHU’A STATE
20. AJARISTAN
21. AKHZIVLAND
22. AKROPONG KINGDOM
23. ALAMEIGH PRINCIPALITY
24. ALARA NATION
25. ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY
26. ALBAZIN
27. ALCATRAZ NATION
28. ALDABRA KINGDOM
29. ALERAMIA
30. ALITAO
31. ALICE SHOAL
32. ALL WHITE CITIES FEDERATION
33. ALPANIE LIBRE
34. ALPHISTIA PROJECT
35. ALTAÏ CONFEDERATE STATES
36. ALTERRA KINGDOM
37. AMADOR POPULAR REPUBLIC
38. AMELIA ISLAND
39. AMERICAN STATES CONFEDERATION
40. AMNORY STATE
41. AMUNDSEN HARBOUR STATE
42. ANACERON (Commonwealth of)
43. ANCASH
44. ANGUILLA
45. ANISHINABEK
46. ANITUGA
47. ANJOUAN STATE
48. ANLO KINGDOM
49. ANSCONIA REPUBLIC
50. ANSE SAINT-JEAN
51. ANTARCTIC CONFEDERATION OF CITY REPUBLICS
52. ANTARTICA CONFEDERATION (Federal Republic of)
53. ANTARCTICA (Kingdom of Western)
54. ANTARCTICA (Overseas Exchange Office)
55. APALACHICOLA BAY
56. APEPIPOPU ANARCHIST REPUBLIC
57. APHRODITIS KINGDOM
58. ARAMOANA INDEPENDENT STATES
59. ARAUCANIA & PATAGONIA KINGDOM
60. ARGLEBARGLE
61. ARING OG TELEM NISS STATE
62. ARISTASIA EMPIRE
63. ARK MARAMIJA
64. ARMAGNAC (Principality of)
65. ARORAÏ KINGDOM
66. ARTEMIS PROJECT
67. ARTENYA COMMUNIST NATION
68. ARYA UNITED KINGDOM
69. ARYAN FEMALE HOMESTEAD
70. ARYAN FIGHTERS STRONGHOLD
71. ARYAN NATIONS
72. ASPHYNXIA (Dominion of)
73. ASSAM SOCIALIST STATE
74. ASTORIA ASTORIA
75. ATCHIN STATE
76. ATJEH STATE
77. ATLAND REPUBLIC
78. ATLANTIAN EMPIRE
79. ATLANTIS OPERATION
80. ATLANTIS ISLE OF GOLD
81. ATLANTIS & LEMURIA EMPIRE
82. AUCKLAND ISLANDS
83. AURORA KINGDOM
84. AVALLONIA
85. AVALON INDEPENDENT NATION
86. AVALONIA
87. AVESHIRIA KINGDOM
88. AVOYELLES FREE STATES
89. AVRAM DUCHY
90. AZTEQUE (Empire)
91. AZTLAN
92. AWDAL REPUBLIC
93. AZAWAD TERRITORY
94. BAFOKENG KINGDOM
95. BAGOUDA MONARCHIST FEDERATION
96. BAHNARS-RONGAOS UNION
97. BAHOUDII KINGDOM
98. BAHRAT (A.C.)
99. BAJA ARIZONA REPUBLIC
100. BAJA CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC
101. BAJA COLUMBIA (Republica de)
102. BALDONIA (Republic of Outer)
103. BALDONIOS (Republic of Greater)
104. BANABA
105. BANANA QUUENDOM
106. BANNESLED KINGDOM
107. BARBE ISLAND (Sovereign State of)
108. BARDSEY ISLAND
109. BARNSTORVIA REPUBLIK
110. BARRACAS REPUBLIC
111. BASHKORTOSTAN REPUBLIC
112. BASSE TERRE (Republic of)
113. BATEKE STATE
114. BATEKEN STATE
115. BAVARIA NOVA
116. BAYERN (Freistaat and later Soviet Republic of)
117. BEING STATE
118. BELLATORIA FREE & SOVEREIGN STATES
119. BENIN KINGDOM
120. BERNERA ISLAND
121. BERVANIA (Republica Socialista de)
122. BIAFRA REPUBLIC
123. BIAKNABATO REPUBLIC
124. BIFFECHE KINGDOM
125. BIG AMBERGRIS
126. BLUFFINGTON HINDU REPUBLIC
127. BLUM (Republica de)
128. BOKHARA KHANATE
129. BOPHUTTHATSWANA BANTUSTAN
130. BOROVNIA KINGDOM
131. BOUGAINVILLE ISLAND REPUBLIC
132. BOUGANDA KINGDOM
133. BOUKHARA EMPIRE
134. BOUNTY (State of the Island of)
135. BOYSHOOD REPUBLIC
136. BRECQHOU ISLAND
137. BRINDABELLA COMMUNITY
138. BRUDERS CHWEIGEN
139. BRUNAN HEREDITARY MONARCHY
140. BUENOS AIRES
141. BUMBA
142. BUMBUNGA PROVINCE
143. BURKE COUNTY
144. BURNISIA STATE
145. CABAL FEDERAL REPUBLIC
146. CADIX REPUBLIC
147. CALIFORNIA FREE STATE
148. CALIFORNIA INVICTA
149. CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC
150. CALLAWAY KINGDOM
151. CAMDENSHIRE ROYAL SOVEREIGNTY
152. CAMONIA EMPIRE
153. CAMSIDE PRINCIPALITY
154. CANADA IMPERIAL EMPIRE
155. CANARIES (Royaume des)
156. CANNA ISLAND
157. CAPACUA (Republica de)
158. CARELIA INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC
159. CARENIA
160. CARNEVALIS REPUBLIK
161. CARN IAR ISLAND
162. CAROLINGIANS & BERNICIANS STATES
163. CARRIBEA REPUBLICA
164. CARSEVENE (Rio)
165. CASCADIA COMMONWEALTH STATES
166. CASI UNITED STATES
167. CASTELLANIA (Fuerstentum of)
168. CELESTIA NATION
169. CELESTIAL SPACE NATION
170. CEZEMBRE (Free City of)
171. CHABANCO
172. CHAGOS REPUBLIC
173. CHAMA (Republica Pueblo San Joaquin Rio de)
174. CHAMP D ASILE
175. CHAR REPUBLIC
176. CHEROKEE REPUBLIC
177. CHERUSKEN COMMONWEALTH
178. CHERUSKEN KINGDOM
179. CHINESE REPUBLIC
180. CHOCONYA
181. CHRISTIANIA
182. CHUTOTKA FREE STATE
183. CHYAN POPULAR REPUBLIC
184. CHYPRE & JERUSALEM (Royaume de)
185. CISKEI BANTUSTAN
186. CLAIRE ISLAND (Royaume de)
187. CLAVOLOGIQUE (Principaute)
188. CLERMONT PRINCIPALITY
189. CLIPPERTON KINGDOM
190. CLIPPERTON (Principaute de)
191. CLIPPERTON REPUBLIC
192. COCOS-KEELING (Kingdom of the Islands of)
193. COLONIA SAINT JOHN SOVEREIGN STATE
194. COMMUNICATIA POPULAR REPUBLIC
195. CONCH REPUBLIC
196. CONFEDERATE STATES UNION
197. CONFEDERATED ONLINE STATES
198. CONFEDERATED TERRITORIES (The)
199. CONFEDERATION UNIVERSELLE DES PETITS ETATS (CPE)
200. CONTRESCARPE (Commune libre de la)
201. COOLAND (West Refaim)
202. CORALLAND UNITED KINGDOM
203. CORISCO KINGDOM
204. COROCO REPUBLIC
205. CORSE (Royaume de)
206. CORSICA NOVA
207. CORTEGUAY (Republique de)
208. CORTERRA FEDERAL REPUBLIC
209. CORVINIA SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC
210. COUNANI FREE REPUBLIC
211. COUNCIL OF ONIRIC STATES
212. CREATIVE ANACHRONISM (Society for)
213. CREEK CONFEDERATION
214. CREEKS WORLD
215. CRETE (Kingdom of)
216. CRIMEA (Khanat of)
217. CROWNEST PASS PRINCIPALITY
218. CRYONICA PRINCIPALITY
219. CUERVO GOLD REPUBLIC
220. CYBERIA VIRTUAL COMMONWEALTH
221. CYBERIA (United Provinces of Western)
222. CYBERLAND KINGDOM
223. CYMRU
224. CYPRUS (Turkish Republic of Northern)
225. DAGÖ ISLAND
226. DAHLAK ISLAND
227. DAKOTA (Free State of Northern)
228. DAM BATAI FEDERATION
229. DAMONIAN EMPIRE
230. DANOS KINGDOM
231. DANZIG FREE REPUBLIC
232. DANZIG REPUBLIK
233. DARFUR SULTANATE
234. DATIA PRINCIPALITY
235. DAVAAR ISLAND
236. DE GAP STATE
237. DENKYERA KINGDOM
238. DESERET STATE
239. DESMOND (Kingdom & Principality of)
240. DESPERADOS (Republica dos)
241. DIGGERS REPUBLIC
242. DITMARKSEN
243. NONETSK REPUBLIK
244. DOUGERTHY-HESPERIES ISLAND
245. DRAKE ISLAND
246. DROMIDAU KINGDOM
247. DRULLIC EMPIRE
248. DRULLISCHES IMPERIUM
249. ECCLESIA KINGDOM OF GOD
250. ECONIA PARTICIPATIVE REPUBLIC
251. ECREHOUS (Royaume des)
252. EDAN KINGDOM
253. EDELWEISS KINGDOM
254. EDERINGRIJK DER VRIESDLANDEN
255. EINHALLOW ISLAND
256. EL COSTA NUEVA (Popular Republic of)
257. ELDORADO
258. ELGALAND-VARGALAND KINGDOM
259. ELY-CHAITLINE (Free Territory of)
260. ENENKIO ATOLL KINGDOM
261. ENVALIRA (Republic of)
262. EPIRUS et ALBANIA (Kingdom of)
263. ERINTON DEMOCRACY
264. ERUNWON KINGDOM
265. ESTACA GASTRONOMIC PRINCIPALITY
266. ETABLISSEMENTS PIONNIERS UNIS
267. EYRE LAND PRINCIPALITY
268. FALKENBERG KINGDOM
269. FALKEN NEST FEDERATION
270. FANTIPPO (Haut Royaume de)
271. FEYDEY (Free Republic of)
272. FIGUEROLLES (Independent Republic of)
273. FIRA POPULAR REPUBLIC
274. FLANDERS INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC
275. FLAT 24 REPUBLIC
276. FLEUVE INDIEN (Republique du)
277. FLIM FLAM CITY
278. FLOATING REPUBLIC
279. FORMIGA REPUBLIC
280. FOUNAN (Royaume du)
281. FRANCE FEDERATION
282. FRANCOPHONE VIRTUELLE (Republique)
283. FREDONIA REPUBLIC
284. FREE AMAZONS KINGDOM
285. FREE AMERICA (Imperial Union of)
286. FREEDOMLAND (Free Land of)
287. FREEDOMLAND KINGDOM
288. FREEDONIA KINGDOM
289. FREEDONIA (Republic and then Principality of)
290. FREE EASTERN TURKESTAN
291. FREE FLORIDAS REPUBLIC
292. FREELONIA SULTANATE
293. FREE NATION FOUNDATION
294. FREE SOUTHERN MONGOLIA
295. FREE VINLAND REPUBLIC
296. FREELAND
297. FREEMEN OF MONTANA
298. FREE WHITE CONTINENT
299. FREMONT ARTISTIC REPUBLIC
300. FRESTONIA (Free Independent State of)
301. FRIOUL (Free Republic of)
302. FRISENLAND KINGDOM
303. FROBNIA POPULAR REPUBLIC
304. GAGAOUZIA REPUBLIC
305. GAIRSAY ISLAND
306. GALACTIC EMPIRE
307. GALILEE (Empire de)
308. GANIENKEH MOHAWK STATES
309. GANJISTAN
310. GARABOND INDEPENDENT STATES
311. GARAMA PRINCIPALITY
312. GAREE THOHEEK SAHN
313. GAZANKULU BANTUSTAN
314. GHANASIA INDEPENDENT STATES
315. GILLIGAN ISLAND
316. GLACETON STATE
317. GLADYS REPUBLIC
318. GLENNSYLVANIA
319. GLIB ROOM EMPIRE
320. GOFFREA REPUBLIC
321. GOLD ISLAND
322. GONDOR & ARNOR KINGDOMS
323. GOOD FAITH COMMUNITY
324. GOR KINGDOM
325. GOSHA SULTANATE
326. GOUST
327. GRAHAM MEMORIAL CITY STATE
328. GRANBIA STATE
329. GRAND ALLIANCE (The)
330. GRAND ARYAN STRONGHOLD
331. GRAND BAETICA
332. GRAND CAPRI REPUBLIC
333. GREY SHIRTS EMPIRE
334. GREYTOWN CITY & FREE TERRITORIES
335. GREEN MOUNTAIN REPUBLIC
336. GROGNARDIA GRAND-DUCHY
337. GRUNAY ISLAND
338. GRUVER EMPIRE
339. GUGH ISLAND
340. GUMACA
341. GURS
342. GUTIGUA
343. GUYANE INDEPENDANTE (Republique de)
344. GUYLAND REPUBLIC
345. HAGGAR HAMALAT
346. HAREN GRAND-DUCHY
347. HARMONIA DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC
348. HARMONIA MUNDI WORLD
349. HASSMORIA VIRTUAL REP